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How do traffic signals work? (2019)

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  1. Sohcahtoa82 · · focus · HN ↗
    > Actuated signal control [...] inductive loop sensors embedded into the road surface

    It blows my mind how many people don't realize that's what those circles near the stop bar of an intersection are for, and will then stop 3+ car lengths behind the stop bar, and then can't figure out why the light is never going green.

    > two signals closely spaced in a row on a major roadway. If one signal gives a green but the next one doesn’t, cars can back up

    This is a major problem at an intersection near me that I used to have to drive through frequently. Two intersections, only about 500 feet between them, and MOST traffic during rush out coming from just one of the directions, yet the lights were often exactly out of sync. The first light would be red while the next one was green. Then the first would go green while the other went red, and traffic would only move about 500 feet then stop for 2 minutes. The backup would last well over a mile.

    > The obvious next step in efficiency is coordination of most or all the signals within a traffic network. This is the job of adaptive signal control technologies, or ASCT. [..] These types of systems can dramatically reduce congestion

    My cynical ass would not be surprised at all if oil/gas companies were lobbying against ASCT because idling cars are buying more fuel. Wouldn't be too hard to convince people that an ASCT would cost too much to implement while not producing significant traffic benefits.

    1. mlaretallack · · focus · HN ↗
      ASCT is standard practice (and has been standard practice) on most junctions in most towns and cities in the UK for over 20 years.
      1. Sohcahtoa82 · · focus · HN ↗
        Curious...in the UK, is the implementation of something like that done by government employees?

        In the USA, a significant amount of tax-funded infrastructure is actually built out by contractors, which means there's profit going to a corporation, and there's often a cynical idea that the contracts go out to whoever will send a kickback in the form of a campaign contribution to whoever makes the decision on which contractor to use.

        1. pjc50 · · focus · HN ↗
          UK council election spending limit is £960, so not a lot of scope for big &quot;contributions&quot; as bribes. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.electoralcommission.org.uk&#x2F;guidance-candidates-and-agents-local-government-elections-england&#x2F;candidate-spending&#x2F;how-much-can-you-spend" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.electoralcommission.org.uk&#x2F;guidance-candidates-a...

          That means all the bribery has to be firmly under the table instead, rather than legalized.

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