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1. meerita · 1790009756 · focus · HN ↗

   Grok it's really expensive. I'm getting really amazing results using DeepSeek 4.1 Flash for fraction of the price.

   1. testfrequency · 1790010532 · focus · HN ↗

      What is the most secure way to use this model as someone who is lazy

      1. user43928 · 1790011529 · focus · HN ↗

         I understand DeepSeek 4.1 Flash is available on US providers with Zero Data Retention if that is what you are asking.

         1. sparkling · 1790013127 · focus · HN ↗

            Yes, but with subpar caching and higher cached token pricing, compared to directly using the DeepSeek platform.

            1. RussianCow · 1790020741 · focus · HN ↗

               For caching, only if you don't specify your preferred providers and let OpenRouter route each request itself. I have stuff like this in my OpenCode config for each model I use and I regularly get ~90-95% cache hit rates.

                   "order": ["relace", "coreweave", "novita", "baseten", "together"],
                   "allow_fallbacks": false
               

               It still won't be quite as high as you'd get by just using DeepSeek because occasionally a request will fail and you'll get routed to a backup provider with nothing cached, but it's close enough not to matter in most instances.

               But I can't argue with the lower off-peak pricing when using DeepSeek directly. The downside is they train their models on your input, which might be a deal-breaker for many users (as it is for me).

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