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Good people refuse to do bad things

144 points · 147 comments · Brajeshwar

  1. ArcHound · · focus · HN ↗
    Generally, I agree.

    Imagine: you start working at the company with a good will towards them. As you learn more and see more decisions, you slowly realize how bad it is. Now you've already contributed. Then you leave.

    It might be possible to build everything with this goodwill and that's how we'd still end up with a torment nexus even if you immediately drop it.

    What I'm saying is, at one point you have to break the company fully.

    I'm not sure what more we need to wait for, if the claim "10% it ends humanity" is not enough.

    1. seiferteric · · focus · HN ↗
      If it's "10% it ends humanity" and "20% it solves climate change and saves humanity" then is it still bad?
      1. mofeien · · focus · HN ↗
        Potentially. If we could put a precise probability on it, we could maybe make an informed decision on whether we want to play that Russian roulette as a species.

        But the reality is that experts' probabilities for human extinctions vary wildly, with the lab leaders at 20%-30% and these researchers at >10% (he didn't state how much higher...), LeCun at <0.01% and the other two godfathers of AI, Bengio and Hinton at >10%.

        And this decision to take our shot is not taken in a democratic way by humanity as a whole, but by a few companies racing as fast as possible.

        So as long as no one can put an upper bound on the extinction risk, development must be globally shut down.

        1. [deleted] · · focus · HN ↗

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