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1. thewhitetulip · 1790004263 · focus · HN ↗

   I am tired to fight against every platform that I have to use

   De macify Mac Degoogle Android Demacify ipad DeLLM chrome browsers local llm

   Can we expect sane decisions from corpos about what we want rather than what latest thing they want to push on us?

   1. jhack · 1790004447 · focus · HN ↗

      Apple says their users make 2.5B Siri requests per day. Sounds like people want it?

      1. GuinansEyebrows · 1790005027 · focus · HN ↗

         i wonder how many of them are like 100% of my requests?

         - "set a timer for 14 minutes"

         - "remind me to make a doctor's appointment tomorrow at noon"

         - "turn off the bedroom lights"

         that don't require any form of AI and have functioned perfectly well (aside from having a hard time when i mumble) for years on non-AI versions of Siri?

         1. thewebguyd · 1790005988 · focus · HN ↗

            I suspect even some of the more "advanced" queries they demoed off, i.e., "what was that restaurant John and I talked about last week?" also not require LLMs whatsoever and could have been accomplished with a simple search.

            1. anamexis · 1790007598 · focus · HN ↗

               I think you're going to need some kind of ML to turn that question into a structured search, and interpret the results.

               1. regenschutz · 1790009494 · focus · HN ↗

                  Not necessarily. NLP is possible to do without any ML. See ELIZA [0] as an example, which used pattern matching and substitution to process natural language. A few simple rules can cover a majority of requests. It's still AI, but not ML.

                  Though I do agree that the ML-based NLP thst we have today is much more usable, albeit more compute-expensive.

                  [0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ELIZA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ELIZA

         2. exographicskip · 1790005994 · focus · HN ↗

            This matches my use cases. Poor speech to text recognition so I don&#x27;t trust siri to do anything non-trivial
         3. dreamcompiler · 1790012057 · focus · HN ↗

            Siri was always AI, but the popular connotation of &quot;AI&quot; changes all the time. It now means &quot;LLMs built with transformers.&quot;

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