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What Sun got wrong

692 points · 437 comments · chmaynard

  1. onraglanroad · · focus · HN ↗
    As an outsider at the time, when Linux was taking off, there seemed to be a lot of people asking why they wouldn't Open Source Solaris.

    It seemed to me like they couldn't decide whether they were a hardware company or a software company.

    Mind you, I was young at the time so possibly didn't have the best understanding of the situation. Seems like they left the decision too late though.

    Dismissing Linux as a hobbiest OS definitely turned out badly.

    1. nobody9999 · · focus · HN ↗
      >Dismissing Linux as a hobbiest OS definitely turned out badly.

      That actually made me laugh. Not because it's untrue, but because it reminded me of this:

         One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How 
         enthusiastic is our support for UNIX?
      
         Unix was written on our machines and for our machines 
         many years ago. Today, much of UNIX being done is done on 
         our machines. Ten percent of our VAXs are going for UNIX 
         use. UNIX is a simple language, easy to understand, easy 
         to get started with. It’s great for students, great for 
         somewhat casual users, and it’s great for interchanging 
         programs between different machines. And so, because of 
         its popularity in these markets, we support it. We have 
         good UNIX on VAX and good UNIX on PDP-11s.
      
         It is our belief, however, that serious professional 
         users will run out of things they can do with UNIX. 
         They’ll want a real system and will end up doing VMS when 
         they get to be serious about programming.
      
         With UNIX, if you’re looking for something, you can 
         easily and quickly check that small manual and find out 
         that it’s not there. With VMS, no matter what you look 
         for — it’s literally a five-foot shelf of documentation — 
         if you look long enough it’s there. That’s the difference 
         — the beauty of UNIX is it’s simple; and the beauty of 
         VMS is that it’s all there.
      
         — Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984
      1. onraglanroad · · focus · HN ↗
        Ok, that is funny! Though interesting to consider. Why did no-one go with a free OS that was VMS based in the same way?

        It's basically does Linux win or why not BSD? Never what about OpenVMS.

        1. nobody9999 · · focus · HN ↗
          >Ok, that is funny! Though interesting to consider. Why did no-one go with a free OS that was VMS based in the same way?

          >It's basically does Linux win or why not BSD? Never what about OpenVMS.

          While my original reply was accurate, it could have, more concisely, read:

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