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What Sun got wrong

692 points · 437 comments · chmaynard

  1. Zigurd · · focus · HN ↗
    Making workstations even in the dominant market position that Sun had, was a cottage industry compared to technology today, and it was managed that way. I wouldn't blame management for Sun being irrelevant now.

    What everybody except Steve Jobs got wrong was not taking user interface seriously enough. Not even Xerox. I've used aa Xerox Alto, a Sun workstation, an LMI CADR, and a Symbolics 3600, and none of them were as carefully crafted as a Macintosh with a tiny memory and a floppy disk. Next inherited this ethic.

    Jobs valued the person using the machine more than anything else about the machine.

    1. TacticalCoder · · focus · HN ↗
      > What everybody except Steve Jobs got wrong was not taking user interface seriously enough.

      But Linux took over the world and it had a crappy UI. I was there, back when Xorg didn't even exist, running X and messing with modelines on Linux. All the window manager sucked big times.

      Sun, just like SGI, got attacked by cheap beige PCs running either Windows or Linux.

      I don't think their UI had much to do with their downfall and, arguably, SGI's UIs were better than the competition and they still disappeared too.

      Also weren't most machines sold by Sun servers anyway? Their famous "We the dot in .com" tagline.

      1. AnimalMuppet · · focus · HN ↗
        I remember a web page put up by an SGI employee, saying that x86 wasn't going to destroy the Unix workstation business. The title was "Pecked To Death By Ducks".

        Then Intel came out with dual-core processors, which was the new hotness. So he wrote a followup page, literally titled "Pecked To Death By Ducks With Two Bills".

        At the time, I thought they were funny, and made reasonable arguments. But in retrospect, they were just trying to distract the customers from the fact that Intel was overtaking them.

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