‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Kev: Tiny Jev-like family of decision models built on top of Qwen3.5

462 points · 211 comments · tosh

  1. monkeydust · · focus · HN ↗
    Bit of a Jev explosion going on. Is it because it's taking us back to a simpler time we understand better? Classification models have been around for a while.
    1. vintermann · · focus · HN ↗
      We know how useful classification models are, but massive pretraining is even more useful. So useful that it's tempting to just use a generic autoregressive model for everything, rather than trying to train a specialized classifier.

      I think specialized models of all sorts, if it were possible to train them on equally much data, would outperform general models. In cases where we can have the data, like in self-play in games, they clearly do and have done so for a long time.

      But it's a lot of effort to train specialized models. I think it's too early to tell if Jev delivers on its promises to give the best of both worlds, but if it doesn't, we'll have to make it work. It's just the right thing to try.

Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.