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AX – Google’s Open Agentic Orchestrator

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  1. sigbottle · · focus · HN ↗
    Could someone explain to me what the general workflow is now that people are converging to? I haven't really been catching up with the AI ecosystem but I was looking into agent sandboxes and VM's recently and there's a ton of these startups and tools now. Is giving the agent a temporary scratchbox really that valuable?

    I've been still just like, making VM's with proxmox, then putting my agent in the machine and letting it run free (with my dotfiles setup script making dev env pretty much free, though I could also just make a VM snapshot). What's wrong with that? Is that not the scalable solution for enterprise rn?

    1. briga · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't think there is really any convergence going on. The agentic ecosystem is continuing to multiply on a daily basis and everyone and their grandma has written a new agent framework--people are stepping over each other to get these new projects out the door.

      That said, I think Google's ADK ecosystem and this new AX platform is promising--I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come.

      To the Googlers out there: is Google using this at any capacity for internal projects?

      1. QuiDortDine · · focus · HN ↗
        > I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come

        The same Google that pulls plugs on a whim?

        1. verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
          at least this one is pre-named for past tense when that day arrives /s
        2. briga · · focus · HN ↗
          Hey, Dialogflow still appears to be alive and kicking after over a decade. Given how much money they have spent marketing their agent plaform I could see this lasting a while.
        3. bahmboo · · focus · HN ↗
          And you aren't even being snarky. This is a legit concern whenever I see some new Google initiative that feels like a wart. A nice friendly useful loving wart but its days can be numbered
          1. sigmoid10 · · focus · HN ↗
            Google already dumped their original agent framework on the Linux foundation after they realized noone really liked it and the overzealous managers who immediately bought into the hype would go apeshit if they dropped support so fast. Agentic tools have a lifetime measured in months.
        4. pm90 · · focus · HN ↗
          Like Kubernetes?
      2. gnaman · · focus · HN ↗
        >I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come.

        btw its the same google that has already killed its "gemini cli" and re-introduced it in the form of "antigravity cli"

        1. fishfasell · · focus · HN ↗
          Google+ would like a word
          1. ozmaverick72 · · focus · HN ↗
            Google Wave is waving
            1. sssilver · · focus · HN ↗
              Google Buzz is buzzing
              1. bethekidyouwant · · focus · HN ↗
                It’s clear that maintaining everything in perpetuity is how you become #2
                1. anjel · · focus · HN ↗
                  Yahoo would like a word with you
            2. rolymath · · focus · HN ↗
              What about:

              Gmail for Your Domain/Google Apps for Your Domain/Google Apps/Google Apps Premier Edition/Google Apps for Business/Google Apps for Work/G Suite/Google Workspace

            3. hendler · · focus · HN ↗
              Google gears is grinding
              1. p_l · · focus · HN ↗
                Gears has been superseded, not canceled
            4. flir · · focus · HN ↗
              Actually, I think it's drowning.
            5. mansilladev · · focus · HN ↗
              I was @ Google I/O at live keynote when they announced/demoed it. Ironically, at the exact same time, me and the guy next to me said (in different words), "Why do we need this?" That was a collaborative Google Wave moment IRL.
        2. egl2020 · · focus · HN ↗
          Google tries a lot of stuff. It doesn't always work out for them, and sometimes they give up on it. I don't think that's a complete loss for the rest of us. We get to see what didn't work in the real world, and if it's really valuable, someone else can pick up the idea and build on that knowledge. I say this as someone who misses Google Reader.
          1. 1dom · · focus · HN ↗
            I think the negative impact lots of humans regularly experience from Google's approach to business is far more than the benefit of the very, very specific learning that "this idea doesn't make enough money for Google the way Google did it".
          2. calgoo · · focus · HN ↗
            Yes thats fine, but i would never trust to use one of their productions in production so to speak.
        3. contentkraft · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah I wouldn’t build anything on Google’s products that might not exist in x years
      3. therein · · focus · HN ↗
        > I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come

        "Gosh, that Italian family at the next table sure is quiet"

      4. pigeons · · focus · HN ↗
        > I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come.

        Do you see what you wrote?

        1. falcor84 · · focus · HN ↗
          I for one read it as intentional sarcasm.
      5. fnord77 · · focus · HN ↗
        > everyone and their grandma has written a new agent framework-

        guilty as charged

        1. klaushougesen1 · · focus · HN ↗
          ditto
        2. ncruces · · focus · HN ↗
          Tell us more about your grandma.
        3. ElFitz · · focus · HN ↗
          I think my dog has spent all weekend refactoring its own framework to integrate Jev.
      6. avazhi · · focus · HN ↗
        > I would expect Google to maintain this and other tooling around this for years to come.

        First time?

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