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AX – Google’s Open Agentic Orchestrator

666 points · 301 comments · blazarquasar

  1. TomGarden · · focus · HN ↗
    Question: What is Google's track record for where their open source releases end up over time?

    Genuinely not knowledgeable here

    1. AlexErrant · · focus · HN ↗
      Well, they're not above forking their own project to patch security holes and never upstreaming the fixes.

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;grapheneos.social&#x2F;@GrapheneOS&#x2F;117282080803799576" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;grapheneos.social&#x2F;@GrapheneOS&#x2F;117282080803799576

      &gt; Google should not be gatekeeping security patches to the standard Android platform code from Android OEMs but that&#x27;s what they&#x27;ve started doing.

      1. surajrmal · · focus · HN ↗
        There is an assumption that AOSP is how OEMs receive Android updates from Google. However I am not sure that is the case. GrapheneOS is perhaps a minority player due to lack of hardware which they can use to get into a partnership agreement and advanced access.
    2. joemazerino · · focus · HN ↗
      Maintain it briefly then slowly let it die.
      1. hustwindmaple · · focus · HN ↗
        more like create a big launch for promo, then maintain it briefly then slowly let it die
        1. jandrese · · focus · HN ↗
          That&#x27;s not fair. Sometimes they kill it off quickly.

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;killedbygoogle.com&#x2F;

      2. neuronexmachina · · focus · HN ↗
        A recent example was the Google workspace CLI, which was maintained for just a month: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;googleworkspace&#x2F;cli" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;googleworkspace&#x2F;cli
        1. Mond_ · · focus · HN ↗
          My understanding is that this one was never really &quot;official&quot;, and that the guy who released it wasn&#x27;t following standard procedures. That&#x27;s not even the official Google github account.
        2. verdverm · · focus · HN ↗
          yet they &quot;maintain&quot; the pinned state on the org page

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;googleworkspace" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;googleworkspace

    3. blazarquasar · · focus · HN ↗
      It depends on where they decide to go with it, I guess. Kubernetes, Go, Tensorflow, Chromium, gRPC are some examples that obviously went incredibly well.
      1. calebkaiser · · focus · HN ↗
        Yeah I&#x27;m actually less hesitant to try out Google open source projects than I am new Google products. I have no idea if this is accurate or just my impression, but I feel like I&#x27;ve been burned by the &quot;killed by Google&quot; meme almost exclusively on their software products, whereas there are plenty of open source efforts from Google that I think of as stable.

        In addition to the ones you listed, I&#x27;d add the V8 runtime, Jax, Protobuf. Even some of their projects that wound up declining in market share (Angular, Tensorflow--both losing share to projects that wound up at Meta, ironically) are still actively maintained and pushed.

        But I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s also a huge graveyard of open source projects they abandoned that just never hit my radar. Still, at least with their open source stuff, you can fork in the worst case.

      2. accidc · · focus · HN ↗
        Or if it becomes commercially valuable, then you can expect Google to take a third direction (embrace, extend, extinguish) : a la their current approach with android
        1. surajrmal · · focus · HN ↗
          I don&#x27;t think that phrase means what you think it does. That only makes sense when there exists an open standard which a company builds an implementation for. Android was built from scratch and there was no standard.
      3. schainks · · focus · HN ↗
        Don&#x27;t forget `cgroups`, eh? That was a huge Linux contribution.

        or Android Open Source Project?

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