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A Necessary History of the Oddest Letter: W

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  1. vhantz · · focus · HN ↗
    English is at best my 3rd language. I have always found the huge discrepancy between pronunciation and spelling really nonsensical (keep in mind that I even speak French). But this article really helps see all that in a new light. Nothing is a-historical, not even phonetics. Newfound respect for the English language.
    1. crossroadsguy · · focus · HN ↗
      > discrepancy between pronunciation and spelling

      That’s rich coming from a speaker of French

      But on a serious note, this discrepancy at this point is entirely unnecessary and wasteful.

      1. wongarsu · · focus · HN ↗
        As a German, I always found French to be incredibly regular. At least in the sense that from spelling you can easily infer pronunciation. The other way around is trickier. At least compared to German, which tries to strike a balance between the two directions. Compared to English, French is still pretty reasonable on that front too

        There is a large number of digraphs and trigraphs (do we really need three letters to spell an "o" sound?), but unlike English digraphs they are actually regular: eau is always pronounced the same, while English has at least four different ways of pronouncing gh. French not pronouncing some word endings in most situations is also a bit weird, but that also has pretty regular rules

        1. williamdclt · · focus · HN ↗
          > from spelling you can easily infer pronunciation

          Usually :) But plenty of cases where you can't, the most common one being silent letters: while you can guess silent letters pretty consistently, some words have unusual silent letters ("asthme", "oignon") or usually-silent letters that aren't silent in this case ("huit").

          Some words are also homographs: spelled the same, but not the same word and might be pronounced differently ("content": is it someone happy or multiple people counting?).

          Some letters silentness change depending on plurality of the word: œuf and bœuf, the F is pronounced in the singular but not the plural.

          1. Miraltar · · focus · HN ↗
            multiple people counting would be "comptent" A good example is "fils" which can mean "son" or "strings"
        2. poulpy123 · · focus · HN ↗
          I'm going to send your comment to a German friend who tries to speak french
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