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Samsung is expected to more than double output of its HBM4 and HBM4E DRAM

562 points · 458 comments · giuliomagnifico

amelius · 1789928450 · focus · HN ↗
Will that be enough for AI's hunger?
1. GoToRO · 1789929801 · focus · HN ↗
  It will be just in time for when AI will run very well on consumer hardware and the need for data centers will collapse.
  1. EA-3167 · 1789930124 · focus · HN ↗
    Or even more amusing in time for the bubble to burst, I hope the big RAM makers end up holding the whole bag for that. Greedy bastards.
    glub · 1789940484 · focus · HN ↗
    Nearly the entire reason we're in this mess is because RAM/SSD/HDD makers are terrified of AI bubble bursting.
    Long-term contracts, not building new fabs - they're in full on hedging mode right now.
    leoc · 1789948233 · focus · HN ↗
    Seemingly the AI bulls are either not sufficiently optimistic, or not sufficiently wealthy(?!), to build new fabs as joint ventures with the manufacturers in which they agree to assume most of the downside risk?
    no-name-here · 1789954716 · focus · HN ↗
    They signed long term contracts for the hardware delivery over years. AI investment is approaching 1 trillion per year and expected to grow to well over 1 trillion per year. [1]
    Even over their many years, projects like the Manhattan Project, the Apollo Program, or the U.S. Interstate Highway System never added up to that. [2]
    Is your argument that there is insufficient AI spending at present as they aren’t also taking on building their own fabs?
    [1] <a href="https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/news-room/press-releases/2026/global-investment-in-ai-infrastructure.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/news-room/press-releases/2026/glob...
    [2] <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/19/visualising-ai-spending-how-does-it-compare-with-historys-mega-projects" rel="nofollow">https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/19/visualising-ai-spen...

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