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US Revokes Limits on Power Plants' Climate Pollution

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  1. reactordev · · focus · HN ↗
    Full steam ahead towards greenhouse gases, climate change, and +5degree temperatures. Why not?
    1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
      Sorry but you can't have EVs everywhere, WA and CA banning natural gas for heat and cooking, WA and OR sabotaging hydro plant output for salmon habitat restoration, while shutting down your most reliable sources of power. The math does not add up.

      Solar and wind output is not constant or reliable. NIMBYs sabotaged nuclear years ago. It takes how many years to bring a new plant online?

      A lot of feel-good rules and regs were passed, pushing a massive shift to electric power, with no consideration as to where the additional power would come from.

      You can't wave your arms like a Peanuts cartoon and have all that extra power appear, which is the logic that was used in passing many of these impractical regulations.

      1. reactordev · · focus · HN ↗
        Solar and wind is extremely reliable. What isn’t reliable is deployment of it.

        Energy storage is required along with solar farms.

        1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
          Until the sun goes down at night or the wind stops blowing. You ignored the word "output".

          > Energy storage is required along with solar farms

          How many batteries are we going to need for that? They literally just figured out how to get the child slaves in the Congo out of the supply chain with a shift to LFP.

          1. WarmWash · · focus · HN ↗
            Enough to store the energy between gaps, plus a buffer?

            Batteries aren't exactly made from gold. Grid scale batteries especially, where weight and size doesn't matter as much, are totally viable on a mass scale.

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