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ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

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mavsman · 1789923911 · focus · HN ↗
To me, this quote just about sums it up:
> The mechanism is standard adtech. What has no precedent is running it on an AI chat product.
As someone who has been well aware of this mechanism for quite some time, I still feel icky anytime I re-read the details of it.
What a time to be alive.
1. jsrozner · 1789925147 · focus · HN ↗
  People think they're interacting with an "intelligence," when actually they're just getting a maximally optimized Weizenbaum feed. We're living through the sloppification of the human mind.
  See e.g., <a href="https://www.science.org/content/article/ai-chatbots-are-becoming-experts-changing-people-s-minds-what-s-their-secret" rel="nofollow">https://www.science.org/content/article/ai-chatbots-are-beco...
  1. brianleb · 1789932513 · focus · HN ↗
    Could you define (or link) to what "Weizenbaum feed" means/references? Too obscure for me but I'm interested. Thanks.
    fweimer · 1789932889 · focus · HN ↗
    Likely a reference to ELIZA: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
    handoflixue · 1789938211 · focus · HN ↗
    Are there really people that can't tell the difference between ELIZA and something that can solve open Millennium Prize Problems in math?
    esikich · 1789941850 · focus · HN ↗
    Yes, AI threatens the folks who think that knowing how to write JavaScript or C makes them smart and being smart is their entire identity.
    BoorishBears · 1789962635 · focus · HN ↗
    I think people who make being smart their whole identity are a out to use AI to turn the rest of the population into indentured servants.
    The comparison between ELIZA and LLMs is valid you boil it down to "humans evolved for 6-7 million years, had spoken language for 500k years, but have only had something non-human that could generate convincingly novel language well enough to hold a conversation for a few decades".
    There's no inherent reason it can't turn out having a non-human generate convincing enough language for conversation isn't a complete evolutionary blindspot the same way the short form feed has pretty much one-shotted society...

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