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ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

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thih9 · 1789929279 · focus · HN ↗
I am once again happy that the EU is fighting practices like these via legislation.
Some outcomes can be annoying, but the net result is still positive, for the consumers and their data privacy at least.
1. fooker · 1789935764 · focus · HN ↗
  > Some outcomes can be annoying
  I'd classify mandatory encryption backdoors as an industry crisis rather than an annoyance.
  1. patrickmcnamara · 1789939187 · focus · HN ↗
    When has the EU mandated encryption backdoors?
    buzer · 1789940284 · focus · HN ↗
    They keep trying it via e.g. chat control
    tensor · 1789940576 · focus · HN ↗
    The US has also tried it multiple times. So has Canada. It's been shut down each time. This isn't a unique to the EU problem.
    RHSeeger · 1789945388 · focus · HN ↗
    The fact that other countries have tried to do <bad thing> does not mean it's acceptable for another country to do <bad thing>
    anigbrowl · 1789962126 · focus · HN ↗
    So why is the criticism about it disproportionately leveled at one jurisdiction?
    fooker · 1789985943 · focus · HN ↗
    I am not sure if you replied in good faith, but here you go.
    The reason is that they have been trying again and again to do this in various forms, slightly modifying tactics so any opposition to it has to start from scratch.
    2015 - <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2015/10/29/encryption-rhetoric-untangled/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2015/10/29/encryption-rhetoric-untang...
    2016 - <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/24/encryption-under-fire-in-europe-as-france-and-germany-call-for-decrypt-law/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2016/08/24/encryption-under-fire-in-e...
    2017 - <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/19/eu-outlaw-backdoors-new-data-privacy-proposals-uk-government-encrypted-communications-whatsapp" rel="nofollow">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/19/eu-outlaw...
    2020 - <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2020/12/14/encryption-council-adopts-resolution-on-security-through-encryption-and-security-despite-encryption/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2020...
    2021 - <a href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/04/29/combating-child-abuse-online-informal-deal-with-european-parliament-on-temporary-rules/" rel="nofollow">https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...
    2023 - <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-document-csa-law/" rel="nofollow">https://www.wired.com/story/europe-break-encryption-leaked-d...
    2025 - <a href="https://www.techspot.com/news/107408-europe-proposes-backdoors-encrypted-platforms-under-new-security.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.techspot.com/news/107408-europe-proposes-backdoo...
    2026 - <a href="https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/07/10/chat-control-10-passed-the-european-parliament-through-the-back-door" rel="nofollow">https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/07/10/chat-control-10-pas...
    anigbrowl · 1790105336 · focus · HN ↗
    Isn't that simply how politics works, though? People who are invested in security keep lobbying for their interests. Generally when political actors fail they dust themselves off and try again, on any issue. Also you haven't shown how the EU is diffrent from any other jurisdiction in this regard.

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