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ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

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  1. mavsman · · focus · HN ↗
    To me, this quote just about sums it up:

    > The mechanism is standard adtech. What has no precedent is running it on an AI chat product.

    As someone who has been well aware of this mechanism for quite some time, I still feel icky anytime I re-read the details of it.

    What a time to be alive.

    1. jsrozner · · focus · HN ↗
      People think they're interacting with an "intelligence," when actually they're just getting a maximally optimized Weizenbaum feed. We're living through the sloppification of the human mind.

      See e.g., <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-becoming-experts-changing-people-s-minds-what-s-their-secret" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-beco...

      1. brianleb · · focus · HN ↗
        Could you define (or link) to what &quot;Weizenbaum feed&quot; means&#x2F;references? Too obscure for me but I&#x27;m interested. Thanks.
        1. fweimer · · focus · HN ↗
          Likely a reference to ELIZA: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ELIZA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ELIZA
          1. handoflixue · · focus · HN ↗
            Are there really people that can&#x27;t tell the difference between ELIZA and something that can solve open Millennium Prize Problems in math?
            1. MisterMunchkin · · focus · HN ↗
              They had to solve the car wash problem by hardcoding the solution in. The AI equivalent of adding another IF statement.

              They had to steal the work of researches solving these open problems and then rewrite their solution. The AI equivalent of fraud.

              1. thinking_cactus · · focus · HN ↗
                Meh. The car wash problem is an underspecified statement. It&#x27;s like, hey, I just popped into existence and someone asked me if they should drive to the car wash nearby.

                It&#x27;s not an insane assumption that the user isn&#x27;t dumb and has some other reason to be asking the question other than it being a trick&#x2F;stupid question (duh, if you want to wash your car you need to drive it to the car wash!). Taking it as some ultimate measure of intelligence simply doesn&#x27;t make sense to me.

                1. selcuka · · focus · HN ↗
                  It&#x27;s not an ultimate measure of intelligence, but it&#x27;s surely a measure of similarity to a real human being.
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