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ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

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  1. mavsman · · focus · HN ↗
    To me, this quote just about sums it up:

    > The mechanism is standard adtech. What has no precedent is running it on an AI chat product.

    As someone who has been well aware of this mechanism for quite some time, I still feel icky anytime I re-read the details of it.

    What a time to be alive.

    1. jsrozner · · focus · HN ↗
      People think they're interacting with an "intelligence," when actually they're just getting a maximally optimized Weizenbaum feed. We're living through the sloppification of the human mind.

      See e.g., <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-becoming-experts-changing-people-s-minds-what-s-their-secret" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-beco...

      1. ben_w · · focus · HN ↗
        What&#x27;s the old quote from WW2?

          I couldn&#x27;t help but notice how each successive headline reporting our glorious victories seemed to draw closer to Tokyo.
        
        Something like that.

        Well. I can&#x27;t help but notice how each successive headline reporting how this &quot;scam&quot;&#x2F;stochastic parrot&#x2F;&quot;scare quotes intelligence&quot; seems to be solving more and more things that were but a few years ago widely regarded as being indicators of high intelligence.

        Being highly convinving is one of the things on that list.

        1. moth11 · · focus · HN ↗
          Nobody is denying that it&#x27;s effective. They&#x27;re denying intelligence

          A programming contest has a problem where given N &lt; 10000, do something hard like come up with the number of primes less than N

          You can come up with all sorts of algorithms that do intelligent things. But the most effective solution is to use metaprogramming to make a massive switch statement that contains all the answers

          1. lambdaone · · focus · HN ↗
            This is classic AI goalposts-moving.

            OK, they can play chess, but that&#x27;s not real AI - can they write poems? OK, they can write poems, but that&#x27;s not real AI - can they compose music? OK, they can compose music, but that&#x27;s not real AI - can they translate languages? OK, they can translate text, but can they do maths? OK, they can do maths, but can they solve a Millenium Prize? &lt;-- we are here

            1. janalsncm · · focus · HN ↗
              Imagine meeting a person who could do all of those things.

              “I once met a person who could beat any grandmaster in chess, translate any language, and complete international math Olympiad problems. He couldn’t solve any Millenium problems though, so I’d say he was a midwit at best.”

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