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ChatGPT now knows what you do on other websites via ad collector

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  1. mavsman · · focus · HN ↗
    To me, this quote just about sums it up:

    > The mechanism is standard adtech. What has no precedent is running it on an AI chat product.

    As someone who has been well aware of this mechanism for quite some time, I still feel icky anytime I re-read the details of it.

    What a time to be alive.

    1. jsrozner · · focus · HN ↗
      People think they're interacting with an "intelligence," when actually they're just getting a maximally optimized Weizenbaum feed. We're living through the sloppification of the human mind.

      See e.g., <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-becoming-experts-changing-people-s-minds-what-s-their-secret" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.science.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;article&#x2F;ai-chatbots-are-beco...

      1. ben_w · · focus · HN ↗
        What&#x27;s the old quote from WW2?

          I couldn&#x27;t help but notice how each successive headline reporting our glorious victories seemed to draw closer to Tokyo.
        
        Something like that.

        Well. I can&#x27;t help but notice how each successive headline reporting how this &quot;scam&quot;&#x2F;stochastic parrot&#x2F;&quot;scare quotes intelligence&quot; seems to be solving more and more things that were but a few years ago widely regarded as being indicators of high intelligence.

        Being highly convinving is one of the things on that list.

        1. moth11 · · focus · HN ↗
          Nobody is denying that it&#x27;s effective. They&#x27;re denying intelligence

          A programming contest has a problem where given N &lt; 10000, do something hard like come up with the number of primes less than N

          You can come up with all sorts of algorithms that do intelligent things. But the most effective solution is to use metaprogramming to make a massive switch statement that contains all the answers

          1. fasterik · · focus · HN ↗
            Are they denying intelligence, or are they redefining it in such a way that only humans can be intelligent? Can you come up with a definition of intelligence that would apply to crows and ant colonies, which are obviously intelligent to some degree, but not the current generation of AI systems?
            1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              Nobody knows what intelligence is. We&#x27;ve recently discovered a lot of things that it isn&#x27;t.
              1. 4fddd3 · · focus · HN ↗
                What we know is intelligence is definitely comprised of the trait of adaptability.

                E.g. humans get exposed to new LLM model - yeah its powerful - 1 week later - eh, that thing? Yeah it&#x27;s whatever. I&#x27;m still employed.

                The human&#x27;s ability to adapt so efficiently is mind-boggling - so much so it pi1sses sam altman and dario off.

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