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1. thih9 · 1789929279 · focus · HN ↗

   I am once again happy that the EU is fighting practices like these via legislation.

   Some outcomes can be annoying, but the net result is still positive, for the consumers and their data privacy at least.

   1. soulofmischief · 1789938030 · focus · HN ↗

      Are you equally happy that the EU is attempting to mandate backdoors into technological platforms and outlaw private encrypted communication?

      1. dspillett · 1789938932 · focus · HN ↗

         Copypasting my reply to someone who made almost exactly the same point in a sibling comment earlier:

         Which has nothing to do with the stalking of the adtech industry, unless you are suggesting that the EU might sell access to the keys to the likes of OpenAI [though you are not wrong that encryption backdoors are a backwards step on individuals rights to privacy]

         Things could be worse. It could be like most of the US where there are both no (or at least far fewer) protections against invasive behaviour of private companies and the government actively trying to backdoor private comms.

         1. einpoklum · 1789940762 · focus · HN ↗

            > Which has nothing to do with the stalking of the adtech industry

            It has a lot to do with the practices of the adtech industry. If privacy is protected and upheld vis-a-vis the government (or meta-government in case of the EU), it may be upheld vis-a-vis private corporations and other governments. But if the government likes to be able to spy on its citizens, it will not foster mechanisms, practices and a culture of private communications.

            But - I agree that it could be much worse.

         2. soulofmischief · 1790090860 · focus · HN ↗

            Sorry, you said "Some outcomes can be annoying, but the net result is still positive, for the consumers and their data privacy at least," which warrants both of the replies you received given the massive, unacceptable breach in privacy which Chat Control and similar laws exercise. This is not a "backwards step", this is throwing out the entire concept of privacy and replacing it with a shapeshifting doppelganger that can morph depending on the target.

            > Things could be worse. It could be like most of the US

            Yep, it could definitely be worse, but your response ignored the obvious intention behind my question. Saying, "but the US is bad, too" doesn't make your prior take of EU law being a net good for privacy any less uninformed.

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