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1. Legend2440 · 1789923799 · focus · HN ↗

   So basically the same kind of tracking that Facebook, Google, etc have been doing for decades?

   1. emptybits · 1789924223 · focus · HN ↗

      Similar, yes, but some people are paying OpenAI to be part of this business model, unlike typical free-riding Google and Facebook users.

      1. troupo · 1789930160 · focus · HN ↗

         Derogatory "Free-riding users". "Free riding users" should have the same privacy as the paying ones.

         1. rangestransform · 1789937780 · focus · HN ↗

            Will the government pay OpenAI to run an ad-free free tier?

            1. upboundspiral · 1789942016 · focus · HN ↗

               The government could pass laws that prevent advertising becoming mass surveillance and stalking.
            2. troupo · 1789942164 · focus · HN ↗

               Ads don't require pervasive and invasive tracking, and surveillance that Stasi would have wet dreams about.
         2. what · 1789942690 · focus · HN ↗

            Kind of silly. You have to pay somehow. Either pony up cash or pay with your eyeballs or data. But I doubt paying will give you privacy either.

            1. pona-a · 1789963326 · focus · HN ↗

               I think few will argue it's ethically or legally fine for my website to pay by installing a keylogger through a zero-click Chromium RCE, burying it in the EULA.
            2. troupo · 1789974416 · focus · HN ↗

               Ads don't require pervasive and invasive tracking, and surveillance that Stasi would have wet dreams about.

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