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Pirate Face Rescues LLM Models from Deletion

569 points · 149 comments · skepticalgenius

  1. mococa · · focus · HN ↗
    Steam & Blizzard (probably others) used to delivery games through torrent protocol in the past, before CDNs became cheaper.

    When StarCraft 2 was lauched, the installer (before Battle.net installer crapware) had a complete graphical visualization of seeders & leechers.

    Reference: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;warcraft.wiki.gg&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blizzard_Downloader" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;warcraft.wiki.gg&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Blizzard_Downloader

    1. Aurornis · · focus · HN ↗
      Several companies tried this for distributing software.

      It was very controversial. Users were angry that software companies were using their internet bandwidth to distribute their software. Made a lot of people angry.

      1. kzrdude · · focus · HN ↗
        Typical example to show that people who want to be angry will be angry, even for pointless things.
        1. mh- · · focus · HN ↗
          As someone who was annoyed by it at the time, I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a good example of that.

          This was in an era of much more limited upstream bandwidth. The p2p nature was obscured from non-technical users in some implementations. So on and so on. I&#x27;m sure there are plenty of writeups from that era detailing why it was a bad idea.

          These companies already used capable CDNs to distribute patches. It was a way for them to shift their CDN bill onto their paying customers.

          1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
            I think it&#x27;s like residential proxies. People get upset about &quot;it&#x27;s using my thing!&quot; even though it has literally no effect on them.
            1. mh- · · focus · HN ↗
              I don&#x27;t know how to respond to that, because it has quite a few negative effects on them..
            2. bayindirh · · focus · HN ↗
              When you have barely the upstream bandwidth to send the ACK stream of your downloads, anything sending something becomes a big burden on your system.

              Not everyone has the luxury of fully symmetric internet connections even in this age. Yes, my uplink speeds are absurd when compared to a decade ago, but when I ratio it to my downlink, it&#x27;s still slow.

              I have no comment on residential proxies. Somebody doing something in my name is unacceptable to put it very mildly.

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