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Pirate Face Rescues LLM Models from Deletion

569 points · 149 comments · skepticalgenius

  1. phoyd · · focus · HN ↗
    Torrents should really be the preferred method for distributing AI model weights. Why rely on a single point of failure like Hugging Face? BitTorrent was made for exactly this.
    1. CodesInChaos · · focus · HN ↗
      In my experience public torrents often die as they grow older. It doesn't help that BitTorrent V1 makes long term seeding annoying, and BitTorrent V2 is almost never used.
      1. monsieurbanana · · focus · HN ↗
        I never understood this, is there anything that makes it difficult for the original uploader, the one that supposedly offers the file directly, to offer a torrent instead for the same amount of time?

        As far as perennity is concerned it seems strictly better.

        1. cube00 · · focus · HN ↗
          If they're no longer using that model they may not be willing to continue using their storage for it.
          1. csomar · · focus · HN ↗
            How does this address the previous point? If they are not providing storage, then centralized or decentralized doesn’t make a difference.

            Torrent/P2P can only add redundancy, so it’s impossible to have worse availability than a download link?

            1. _blk · · focus · HN ↗

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              1. pell · · focus · HN ↗
                > Is there a fully in-browser torrent option that has the same UX as a regular file download in Firefox?

                Opera did back in the day.

              2. Wowfunhappy · · focus · HN ↗
                Well, for a torrent to stay healthy, users have to seed after download, so it can't possibly have the same UX as a standard browser file download unless you want to either kill the ecosystem or hide from the user what is consuming upload bandwidth.

                That said, for large files, I much prefer the UX of a well-designed torrent client like Transmission to my web browser. If nothing else, the downloads are reliably resumable.

                1. QuantumNomad_ · · focus · HN ↗
                  > I much prefer the UX of a well-designed torrent client like Transmission to my web browser. If nothing else, the downloads are reliably resumable.

                  Brave browser had BitTorrent client built in for a while. I tried it a couple of times as I already use Brave for web browsing on my laptop. It was a very confusing BitTorrent client. I struggled to use it, and wasted time waiting for a download to complete only to not be able to find where the files were and then they disappeared. Using a decent BitTorrent client like you say is much preferable to the one that they had in Brave browser.

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