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The LLMentalist Effect (2023)

235 points · 309 comments · jalev

  1. rahidz · · focus · HN ↗
    Man I remember back when a psychic conned me by solving the Navier-Stokes problem.

    Also >July 4th, 2023

    1. krupan · · focus · HN ↗
      The LLM did not solve it. It's not intelligent. Humans did, using a statistics-based computational tool (the LLM). We don't even know all the details of how the tool was used, we haven't been allowed to use the exact tool they used ourselves, we don't know much it really cost in dollars, energy, or time, etc. etc.
      1. simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
        Sometimes I think this amount of skepticism is not necessary. Leaving the pedantic (its not AI its humans who solved) arguments, its pretty clear that LLMs are able to help solve things. A lot of erdos problems were solved. Millenium problems as well. Cyphers broken. Skepticism is fine but there's a point at which it just looks like cope.

        Edit:

        > self solving AGI that will replace us all

        Which lab says that it will replace us all? All labs have said that some jobs will go away and new jobs will be needed to replace them. I'll change my mind if the labs (or employees on record) have claimed that self evolving AI will replace us all completely.

        1. krupan · · focus · HN ↗
          How have you missed the many times that Sam Altman and Dario Amodei have said exactly that??
          1. rpdillon · · focus · HN ↗
            Have you missed their retractions of exactly those statements?

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;05&#x2F;26&#x2F;sam-altman-dario-amodei-walking-back-ai-jobs-apocalypse-prophecies-ipo&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;05&#x2F;26&#x2F;sam-altman-dario-amodei-walki...

            1. krupan · · focus · HN ↗
              Do you understand that this is a classic manipulation tactic? Say the false&#x2F;provocative&#x2F;attention grabbing thing loudly then retract&#x2F;explain&#x2F;apologize later for it quietly.
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