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The LLMentalist Effect (2023)

235 points · 309 comments · jalev

  1. vhantz · · focus · HN ↗
    Building up strawmen against LLMs will only make the hypers look more reasonable. A language model responds to inouts exactly as a model of anything else would. That is enough to explain all the "intelligence" without believing a model is somehow a "new kind of mind". Those who think LLMs are intelligent don't know enough about models. And those who think they are useless don't know enough about models.
    1. vhantz · · focus · HN ↗
      To all commenters who think LLMs are intelligent and comparable to themselves, you don't need me to change your mind. I believe you.
      1. daishi55 · · focus · HN ↗
        Sorry but are you trying to subtly imply that if I think LLMs are intelligent, I’m probably actually just a bit stupid?

        Because I would be more than happy to go head to head with you on academic and professional pedigree and credentials.

        I notice you also ignore my comment that you seem to be replying to and instead post your response here. But did you have any answer to the question I asked?

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        1. slopinthebag · · focus · HN ↗
          would this imply llms aren&#x27;t intelligent because they have no academic or professional pedigree or credentials? :P
          1. daishi55 · · focus · HN ↗
            Oh no I meant to compare myself to the person I am talking to, because I believe my credentials and pedigree ought to convince them that I am a pretty smart guy and so the argument “if you think LLMs are intelligent then you’re dumb” doesn’t ring true for me.
            1. mrguyorama · · focus · HN ↗
              Your credentials and pedigree seem to be &quot;Self taught @ Meta&quot;
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