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I'm Tired of the AI Tone

45 points · 56 comments · sagivo

  1. brunohaid · · focus · HN ↗
    One thing that works quite well for me for a couple of model generations now is to mention <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Simplified_Technical_English" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Simplified_Technical_English, something along the lines of

      **Use controlled technical English.** Prefer an ASD-STE100 style: use short sentences, direct terms, active voice, and one idea per sentence; avoid slang, hype, vague pronouns, and unnecessary jargon.
    
    in your agents.md. The concept of STE100 seems sufficiently ingrained in the models to eliminate 90% of the annoying fluff.
    1. quibono · · focus · HN ↗
      I’ve seen this a few times now, and Claude does not listen to this in the long term. It’s still terribly obnoxious.

      I tend to run the content through something like Luna to deslopify now.

      1. altern8 · · focus · HN ↗
        What happens in the long term? Doesn&#x27;t Claude always start with reading CLAUDE.md?
        1. _fw · · focus · HN ↗
          It does, but typically instructions issued at the beginning of a session can fade away as context length grows. The way Claude speaks is distilled into its training and RLHF, which is perhaps a ‘stronger’ direction than a simple “don’t talk like that” prompt.

          I’ve also had limited luck in trying to get models to write in the way I want. It’s more like they’re putting on a voice or wearing a wig: you can see what they’re going for, but it’s easy to see through.

          I never thought I’d see the value of copywriters increase after LLMs hit the general population, but I think the demise of artisan wordsmiths remains a little way off yet.

          And the more people machine-gun AI slop everywhere, the stronger aversion I think people will develop.

          Who knows; maybe they’ll actually fix this in the next wave of models and we’ll see more distinct copywriting techniques between them.

          1. altern8 · · focus · HN ↗
            Yes, that makes sense.

            I have no idea why they&#x27;ve released models this way since they&#x27;re so clearly annoying to use. But either way I keep seeing people complaining about this over and over again so I&#x27;d think next versions will hopefully fix this.

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