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Why do we need human mathematicians anymore?

293 points · 384 comments · auggierose

  1. Planktonne · · focus · HN ↗
    Everyone involved in AI should have read The Library of Babel [1].

    It's about many things, but perhaps the most relevant idea here is that no information matters without understanding. We could generate all possible knowledge, but unless someone--a human--can verify and understand it, it doesn't count. The cure for mortality could be written on the moon, but if no one reads it, it hasn't really been discovered.

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maskofreason.wordpress.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2011&#x2F;02&#x2F;the-library-of-babel-by-jorge-luis-borges.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maskofreason.wordpress.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2011&#x2F;0...

    1. tom_alexander · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; unless someone--a human--can verify and understand it, it doesn&#x27;t count.

      One counter-point: Humans have not figured out how general anesthesia works, but we use it every day to great effect.

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Theories_of_general_anaesthetic_action" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Theories_of_general_anaestheti...

      1. mettamage · · focus · HN ↗
        The part that does count is that we can verify that we does what we want it to do. We just don&#x27;t know how.

        Same with the black box part of AI. What the weights represent? Arcane dark magic if you ask me. What do they do? Well with LLMs we&#x27;re all experiencing it.

        1. amelius · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; The part that does count is that we can verify that we does what we want it to do. We just don&#x27;t know how.

          How do we know the person getting anesthesia doesn&#x27;t die and a new soul&#x2F;consciousness replaces them?

          (We can ask the same question about going to sleep, er even walking through a door, but it&#x27;s still something to think about).

          1. no_input · · focus · HN ↗
            This was my existential horror for most of my life as I almost never remembered dreaming or going to sleep - until I got a CPAP. Once I started using it, there was continuity to my life, I vividly dream and remember those dreams now. I never scored too badly on the apnea tests but just enough to qualify for one so I said what the hell and got it. Even though I don&#x27;t use it regularly, something about my sleep has changed for the better.
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