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Why do we need human mathematicians anymore?

293 points · 384 comments · auggierose

  1. twelve40 · · focus · HN ↗
    > We (humans) should help humanity flourish. I understand that not everyone agrees. I have been called a “speciesist” for being “too human-centric”.

    this is insane. the "speciesist" people aside (the best way for all other species to flourish is for humans to eradicate themselves right now, which is completely mad), i have the opposite problem: the _axiom_ seems to be: we should help ME flourish. "Me" as in people who are raking in trillions for their own very special selves right now, at the cost of everyone else's future, while none of them can be trusted to hold my cell phone for a second.

    > if an industry commits to the axiom of helping humanity flourish

    where does he see such industries, outside of maybe nonprofits?

    1. unsupp0rted · · focus · HN ↗

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      1. PretzelPirate · · focus · HN ↗
        > working 12~18 hours doing one moonshot after another.

        Does anyone actually beleive Musk works 12 - 18 hour days?

        He hires the right people and his companies solve hard problems, but they make a few electric cars, design and build some rockets, and launch some satelites. Most of that shouldn't require much of Musk's time since he has experts working on it.

        Other than designing new rockets, there doesn't seem to be many new innovations coming out of Musk-owned companies.

        To me, it feels like we all think he must be doing a ton of work even though his companies don't seem to be generating much output.

        1. bko · · focus · HN ↗
          I've heard people that work/worked with Musk that say he works a lot and is very knowledgeable about technical matters. I have never found someone that worked with him or knows him personally that contradicts this. So this idea that Musk just got lucky in the 7 companies he founded and he's just a bozo who happened to trip upon some new rocket designs is just insane.
          1. PretzelPirate · · focus · HN ↗
            > So this idea that Musk just got lucky in the 7 companies he founded and he's just a bozo who happened to trip upon some new rocket designs is just insane

            I don't know who's saying that. Of course he's smart, but the amount of hours he works each day is almost certainly exaggerated to maintain this "Tony Stark-like genius narrative" he needs to keep the money coming in.

            Elon knows how to hire, how to raise money, and how to profit from govt subsidies. That doesn't mean he's this lone genius who works himself to death, and that's a very unlikely story.

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