‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Why do we need human mathematicians anymore?

293 points · 384 comments · auggierose

  1. xanderlewis · · focus · HN ↗
    Friendly warning to those who might not be aware: the vast majority of comments below posts like the above will be left by (otherwise intelligent) programmers who think mathematics is a closed system where one attempts to solve endless Olympiad-type problems. I wouldn’t take any of it seriously at all. Better to listen to what those who actually know what the subject is about have to say.

    Unfortunately, mathematics (especially pure mathematics) is by its very nature very, very poorly understood by those who haven’t worked as a mathematician. Even worse, those who don’t understand are seemingly not at all aware of their misunderstanding and are entirely confident in their (very wrong) characterisation of the subject.

    1. colonwqbang · · focus · HN ↗
      Could you clue us in? What is mathematics actually about?
      1. kmaitreys · · focus · HN ↗
        To know what something is about, a natural way is to do it yourself.
        1. password54321 · · focus · HN ↗
          Wow, I'm glad AI is going to start humbling people.
          1. moomoo11 · · focus · HN ↗
            > To know what something is about, a natural way is to do it yourself.

            literally what software engineers were doing for decades though

            software is mostly just simple math, for the most part, until you need to do something more complex for some hairy algos lol

            1. password54321 · · focus · HN ↗
              Actually, if you were to convert most software into mathematical notation it would look incomprehensible. We are not interested in gatekeeping as much by making things look more convoluted than they need to.
              1. CuriouslyC · · focus · HN ↗
                This is a great point. When I was learning machine learning in the early 00s, there were many papers where I would struggle to understand exactly what the mathematics was trying to communicate, but where I would look at the matlab source code and say to myself "that's all?"
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.