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Why do we need human mathematicians anymore?

293 points · 384 comments · auggierose

  1. cynicalpeace · · focus · HN ↗

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    1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
      I would widen it beyond biblical. Other religions has similar values, and they are perfectly possible without religion. Even within Christianity it comes from tradition too.

      > we’ve started to dehumanize unproductive people, a slippery slope if we ourselves become unproductive.

      That is very evident in the sort of things the techbros come up with, but I agre it is a wider social problem.

      1. cynicalpeace · · focus · HN ↗
        Most people haven't even started with the biblical. How bout we start there before “widening it beyond biblical”?

        The moral and spiritual depth of our society has only shallowed after centuries of doing this.

        It hasn’t worked!

        1. graemep · · focus · HN ↗
          > Most people haven't even started with the biblical. How bout we start there before “widening it beyond biblical”?

          Because people have different religious beliefs or none at all. Biblical is not the natural starting point for everyone.

    2. bobajeff · · focus · HN ↗
      That's a little dismissive on the series of posts, as many aren't hand-wringing. The heart of the posts including this one is about recognizing that the math community/academia needs to be better than it has been. (Rewarding teaching more over research, rewarding motivated explanations over proofs etc.)

      I agree that human society is too focused on productivity but disagree that it's tied to ignorance of the Bible. The fall of man illustrated in Genesis is tied to feeding on the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Having the right set of religious concepts wont put you in harmony with God and thus won't make you more loving to your fellow man.

      1. cynicalpeace · · focus · HN ↗
        If you cannot tell a story why humans are more valuable than machines or animals, then you will begin to treat humans like machines and animals, or treat machines and animals like humans.

        There are many modern examples leading to disastrous results.

    3. dsm552 · · focus · HN ↗

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