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KDE turns 30 and someone's brought an AI-native desktop proposal

43 points · 57 comments · pndy

  1. unified101 · · focus · HN ↗
    News piece with unnecessary annoying editorializing.

    I think the idea of plasma widgets and rails fully being customized per user giving them material control on ones desktop is a good idea.

    We need good ideas to counter and take on the omarchy nonsense.

    1. bingemaker · · focus · HN ↗
      When you say omarchy, are you talking about this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;omarchy.org&#x2F; ?
      1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
        Yes, the set of dotfiles by DHH for Arch that has raised 18.5 million dollar, while real distributions and desktops are struggling to get donations. Having a few billionaire friends who share your techbro politics helps I guess.
        1. cpursley · · focus · HN ↗
          DHH having to deal with gatekeeping attitudes like this and particular political prerequisites is the reason he created these “dotfiles” in the first place. I actually know several people who are not very technical and never Linux users who installed and switched to it as their main operating system. So I think what’s actually going on here is a lot of people are butt hurt that this is getting attention and having success when nobody else has before has.
          1. microtonal · · focus · HN ↗
            You don&#x27;t think it is unfair that projects that have basically been xkcd 2347&#x27;s &quot;a project some random person in Nebraska&quot; don&#x27;t get a penny, while DHH who gets millions for a bunch of dotfiles, is unfair? I don&#x27;t contest that his dotfiles may be useful to some people, only that all these companies didn&#x27;t care to give significant money to open source projects that they all rely on to make their billions. But when one of the 1%ers shows up with his hobby project, they all stand in line to donate millions.

            To give an example: Digital Ocean is giving Omarchy $3M, while they cancelled their $50 per month GNOME&#x2F;Flathub VM sponsorship a month before [1].

            [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;social.treehouse.systems&#x2F;@barthalion&#x2F;117241534134006167" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;social.treehouse.systems&#x2F;@barthalion&#x2F;117241534134006...

            1. Kon5ole · · focus · HN ↗
              &gt;You don&#x27;t think it is unfair that projects that have basically been xkcd 2347&#x27;s &quot;a project some random person in Nebraska&quot; don&#x27;t get a penny, while DHH who gets millions for a bunch of dotfiles, is unfair?

              How can we have progress if every shoulder to stand on will cost money? Should we pay every time we walk on the pavement or drive on the road?

              Sometimes work is just &quot;for the common good&quot;, and sometimes that work is harder than the latter part that actually makes money. It&#x27;s peculiar, but I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s unfair.

              Linus Torvalds will never in his life make a fraction of what Github has made, let alone what RedHat, Ubuntu, Suse etc have made.

              But he also doesn&#x27;t have to pay the GNU project for the use of their compiler. And the GNU project doesn&#x27;t have to pay him for using his kernel. And RedHat doesn&#x27;t have to pay either one of them (although they do, voluntarily).

              DHH has also made Rails, which is the foundation of several billion dollar enterprises. So he&#x27;s at least on both ends of the argument.

              1. ShinyLeftPad · · focus · HN ↗
                You do pay for pavement and roads in the form of taxes.
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