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Spain orders blocks on Archive.today and its mirrors

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  1. peri-cl · · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;2YdN9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;2YdN9
    1. Lio · · focus · HN ↗
      This is so funny.

      An article about internet censorship of an archive site that requires an archive site to read!

      That’s Brilliant! :D

      1. tyrabound · · focus · HN ↗
        I find it far more ironic that they are called Reclaim the Internet.

        I am dating myself, but I remember the Internet. It’s rather ironic too that the actual Internet, literal and figuratively free internet, was always doomed from the start, just like AI is effectively doomed in terms of it being some kind of productivity tool or amazing thing you can use to build your own thing, because the logical conclusion is very bad for most people, including the technorati types here that think themselves above it and immune.

        If you’re shocked and surprised by the way there Internet was maneuvered into the surveillance prison Flock made itself the poster child of at the hands of Mr Langley, take that trajectory and lay it over AI, but only at exponential rates. You don’t have to believe me, it won’t matter either way, it’s happening, short of the Soviet style implosion of the “American” empire.

        Maybe once the planet has been made uninhabitable to biological life there will be an AI robot cybernetic splinter group trying to “reclaim humanity”.

        1. altmanaltman · · focus · HN ↗
          How would a soviet style implosion of the US work in real life? A civil war is far more likely and we already have historical precedence for that.

          And your AI robot cybernetic splinter group thing sounds a lot like the biblical story of Noah than anything that&#x27;s based on science or you know facts.

          1. tedggh · · focus · HN ↗
            The US and particularly its armed forces don’t look at all like the 1800s, so another civil war of that nature is not possible. Sabotage, terrorism and political violence could be a new form of civil unrest, but full out civil war without a divided military with entire divisions defecting, is very unlikely.
            1. MiroslavPokorny · · focus · HN ↗
              A war wont happen because Americans are too lazy. Just look how the cities are built, the vast majority simply refuses to walk. To control the population one only has to deny them fuel, and everything else freezes. In older times, everyone was a really hard worker, look at the American civil war, millions in both armies walked thousands of kms. Theres no way a fraction of Americans could or would do that.
              1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
                &quot;simply refuses to&quot; is an odd way to spell &quot;gets arrested if they&quot;
                1. MiroslavPokorny · · focus · HN ↗
                  Im sorry are you trying to tell me, that Americans get arrested if they walk down the road to buy an ice cream or coke ?
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