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Spain orders blocks on Archive.today and its mirrors

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  1. peri-cl · · focus · HN ↗
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;2YdN9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;2YdN9
    1. Lio · · focus · HN ↗
      This is so funny.

      An article about internet censorship of an archive site that requires an archive site to read!

      That’s Brilliant! :D

      1. tyrabound · · focus · HN ↗
        I find it far more ironic that they are called Reclaim the Internet.

        I am dating myself, but I remember the Internet. It’s rather ironic too that the actual Internet, literal and figuratively free internet, was always doomed from the start, just like AI is effectively doomed in terms of it being some kind of productivity tool or amazing thing you can use to build your own thing, because the logical conclusion is very bad for most people, including the technorati types here that think themselves above it and immune.

        If you’re shocked and surprised by the way there Internet was maneuvered into the surveillance prison Flock made itself the poster child of at the hands of Mr Langley, take that trajectory and lay it over AI, but only at exponential rates. You don’t have to believe me, it won’t matter either way, it’s happening, short of the Soviet style implosion of the “American” empire.

        Maybe once the planet has been made uninhabitable to biological life there will be an AI robot cybernetic splinter group trying to “reclaim humanity”.

        1. visarga · · focus · HN ↗
          You can&#x27;t host the internet on your machine, or download a &quot;Google&quot; or &quot;Meta&quot; but you can download a local model. So I don&#x27;t think AI will lead to more centralization. Besides local models, the interface itself - prompt based steering - is eminently more open ended that apps or websites ever were. Cloud or local, you get more control now as a user.
          1. BobbyTables2 · · focus · HN ↗
            For decades, people ran word processors and graphics editors locally.

            Now it’s in the cloud on a damn webpage.

            With recent RAM and storage price disruptions, I feel like we’ll go to go back to an equivalent of everyone having a dumb Wyze terminal with the real “computer” in the cloud… Only difference is the dumb terminal will have color, be wireless, and portable.

            And I really hope I’m wrong…

            1. willtemperley · · focus · HN ↗
              I’d like to think that people will move back to native, but sadly there’s only one viable platform for native app dev, Apple. I base that statement on the highly fragmented Linux ecosystem and the fact that Microsoft are appear to be actively hostile to windows users. I leave Android out of the picture because of the continual and legally proven trust breaches of the owner.

              It does suck. Though Android’s owner does appear to be afraid of Graphene OS so maybe there’s hope.

              1. tancop · · focus · HN ↗
                Linux is not really fragmented anymore, there is a lot of distros but they&#x27;re all compatible with each other. Flatpak solved app distribution and systemd standardized the lower levels. If you build something on Ubuntu it will almost definitely work on Fedora and Arch with no code changes. 10 years ago that was impossible.
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