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Spain orders blocks on Archive.today and its mirrors

555 points · 436 comments · latein

  1. janandonly · · focus · HN ↗
    Access to information feels to me like a human right. Blocking that by any means (legal blockade, price unrealistic high) feels like an infringement on a Human Right.

    I know this isn’t the way the world works yet, but a Human can dream.

    1. latexr · · focus · HN ↗
      Idealistically, I agree with access to information. But how do you square that (and I don’t have a solution) with the proliferation of misinformation used to manipulate the population or the access to dangerous information such as building bombs and bio weapons?
      1. anon48293 · · focus · HN ↗
        That knowledge is already available and generally people don’t build bombs or bioweapons. Otherwise they could still go to university and learn all that if they so wish
        1. berkes · · focus · HN ↗
          Misinformation is unfortunately also available. And contrary to "information to build bombs and bioweapons", it's doing actual harm. To societies, economies and above all, to individuals.
          1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
            Societies don’t have the right to decide what is and isn’t false information and prevent people from accessing or spreading it. (They think they do, and that’s a problem.)

            Fighting misinformation has to happen through establishing and maintaining trust, and providing trusted counters to misinformation. Establishing trust requires alignment with the people you want to trust you.

            Interference (as opposed to participation) in the free flow of information and the process by which truth is determined is a great evil.

            1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              We tried that, it didn't work.
              1. account42 · · focus · HN ↗
                You mean it wasn't profitable enough for the elite.
                1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
                  No, I mean it didn't work.
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