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Spain orders blocks on Archive.today and its mirrors

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  1. miohtama · · focus · HN ↗
    Modern Spain is having patchy record with digital age. Earlier:

    1. Blocked Telegram with a court order, reinstituted after public backslash

    2. Blocks Internet and Cloudflare during La Liga matches

    3. Prime minister Pedro Sanchez from Spanish Socialist Workers’ Party (PSOE) has demanded the end of anonymity in Internet

    They say it is to protect the kids, but likely it is to find out who watches La Liga without a premium subscription.

    1. darccio · · focus · HN ↗
      This censorship mechanism comes from 2011, when it was created under the Spanish Socialist Party's government lead by Zapatero. There was a lot of backlash, but the Intellectual Property Comission (also known as "Comisión Sinde") was never dissolved under the next governments' rules.

      Re: La Liga's censorship, it isn't promoted by the government but by La Liga itself with the collaboration of the largest ISP, Telefónica/Movistar. Movistar used one of the subsidiaries to denounce themselves and other IPs so they would reach a friendly agreement (again, with themselves) that the judge considered enough to enforce the current Cloudflare blocks.

      1. tirant · · focus · HN ↗
        Right. First case was performed by the executive branch of the State. Second one by the justice branch.
      2. swiftcoder · · focus · HN ↗
        > Re: La Liga's censorship, it isn't promoted by the government but by La Liga itself with the collaboration of the largest ISP, Telefónica/Movistar

        It is maybe worth looking at the overlap between La Liga / Movistar directors, and former government officials. The Venn diagram has more overlap that one would like to see

        1. LtdJorge · · focus · HN ↗
          Telefónica is what we call a "cementerio de políticos".
      3. papyrus9244 · · focus · HN ↗
        And just to add some more context, the Second Section (Sección Segunda), which is part of the executive branch, was created because time after time judges concluded that downloading movies from the internet was perfectly legal[1]. So the PSOE's gov at the time (with Zapatero being president) created a law that just sidesteps judges altogether, and bans access from the executive branch.

        [1] See also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;es.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Derecho_de_copia_privada" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;es.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Derecho_de_copia_privada

      4. FullMetalBitch · · focus · HN ↗
        As far as I know regarding La Liga&#x27;s censorship it&#x27;s due to a commercial court judge in Barcelona; meaning a single local Judge has given the green light to block the internet in a whole country.
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