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English: A vs. An

365 points · 529 comments · azhenley

  1. deliciousturkey · · focus · HN ↗
    As a native speaker of a language without articles, I find the English article system by far the most intuitive and easiest to learn of all the languages I have studied. Most other Indo-European languages have articles that you simply need to memorize, as there is no way to derive them from the word itself. Which I never manage to do.
    1. nlitened · · focus · HN ↗
      You probably mean word genders? So you probably say it's sometimes difficult to derive the gender of a noun, hence the correct article
      1. andoando · · focus · HN ↗
        Genders in language is seemingly such a needlessly pointless concept I am really confused as to how it ever developed.

        I still feel Armenian is such a great Indo European language. No articles, no genders, completely phonetic, consistent verb endings, no particular word ordering

        1. my-huge-pony · · focus · HN ↗
          As a native speaker of a language with genders, it's not complex if you're a native speaker (basically nobody ever makes grammar errors related to gender when speaking/writing). As for their role, I think they may work as a simple error correction code (if genders in the sentence don't match, you misheard something)

          FWIW I struggle with using English articles and past/present/future perfect time, because those concepts are absent from my language. Despite decades of experience with English at this point.

          1. srean · · focus · HN ↗
            > As a native speaker of a language with genders, it's not complex

            Said every native speaker I suppose.

            1. my-huge-pony · · focus · HN ↗
              Why abridge (and misrepresent) my quote?

              >it's not complex if you're a native speaker

              Of course this is very complex and not intuitive if you're a language learner. My point was that while there are parts of grammar that native speakers struggle with, and kids drill them for good grades in school, this is not one of that parts. And my broader point was that "needlessly pointless part of the language" is subjective and something language users should judge.

              1. srean · · focus · HN ↗
                Oh it seems you took it personally. My intention was not to cause affront, just to underscore the idea that native speakers have it easier and may not be able to experience or understand the difficulties of a non-native speaker.
                1. srean · · focus · HN ↗
                  s/rule/rile/g
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