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English: A vs. An

365 points · 529 comments · azhenley

  1. abraxas · · focus · HN ↗
    What gets me as a non-native speaker far more than "a vs an" is the "a vs the" conundrum. I still don't quite get when something needs to be "indefinite" and I've been speaking English for close to forty years. My native tongue lacks articles altogether and it's soo bloody hard I feel hopeless I'll ever master them fully.
    1. AndrewDucker · · focus · HN ↗
      If there's more than one, and you don't care which one, then it's "a". If you care which one then it's "the".

      "Pass me a plate" - any plate will do. "Pass me the plate" - I want the specific plate which we were talking about.

      1. layer8 · · focus · HN ↗
        That rule isn’t universal though. “I go to the dentist every year” doesn’t imply that I particularly care about a specific dentist (or, case in point, about the specific dentist).

        “This was a nice evening” is also difficult to characterize as not caring about which evening it is. As are books titled “An Introduction to XYZ”, where both the authors and the readers will probably care about the specific book.

        1. rawling · · focus · HN ↗
          I'm going to the bank, the shop, the dentist, the pool - I have a regular one in mind and you may well also know which one I mean.

          I'm going to a bank, a shop, a dentist - I've found a new one and I may well be about to describe it to you.

          "A nice evening" - there have been ones before, there hopefully will be again, this was one of them.

          1. thaumasiotes · · focus · HN ↗
            > I'm going to the bank, the shop, the dentist, the pool - I have a regular one in mind and you may well also know which one I mean.

            Well, that would work for many uses of the, but it's definitely not a correct explanation here. If I have no idea where the bank is, I'll still describe myself as going to "the bank". I could tell you that "I'm going to the bank", go out and get in my car, and then look up where a convenient bank is. This has to be viewed as idiomatic, or as "the bank" being an abstract task-based location rather than a concrete physical location.

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