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English: A vs. An

365 points · 529 comments · azhenley

  1. abraxas · · focus · HN ↗
    What gets me as a non-native speaker far more than "a vs an" is the "a vs the" conundrum. I still don't quite get when something needs to be "indefinite" and I've been speaking English for close to forty years. My native tongue lacks articles altogether and it's soo bloody hard I feel hopeless I'll ever master them fully.
    1. AndrewDucker · · focus · HN ↗
      If there's more than one, and you don't care which one, then it's "a". If you care which one then it's "the".

      "Pass me a plate" - any plate will do. "Pass me the plate" - I want the specific plate which we were talking about.

      1. Sharlin · · focus · HN ↗
        That much is obvious and everyone learns it like on the first week of English learning, of course. It’s the various cases where that simple rule doesn’t apply that are difficult.

        "I play the piano"

        And then there are those cases where you actually use neither!

        1. necovek · · focus · HN ↗
          And "There is a piano in the lobby."
          1. Nemi · · focus · HN ↗
            I see this as consistent. When you say "I play the piano" you are really saying, "There are many instruments – banjo, trumpet, clarinet, and piano. I play the piano". Saying "I play a piano" is also correct. But the inference is that you are referring to one particular piano.

            In the sentence "There is a piano in the lobby" you are saying "There are many objects in the lobby. Among them is a piano, one of many in the world".

            1. necovek · · focus · HN ↗
              But it's still where the generic, simplistic application of the rule of "the for distinct, a for generic" fails.

              When "you can play the piano", you can play any piano. When "there is a piano in the lobby", it's distinctively a very specific one.

              So I would go on a limb and claim: whether you use the or a is also philosophical in nature :)

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