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English: A vs. An

365 points · 529 comments · azhenley

  1. hbn · · focus · HN ↗
    A funny quirk of English I never noticed until I started learning Spanish:

    In Spanish, to say for example, "he is a doctor," you would say "él es médico." Which more literally translates to "he is doctor," which feels unintuitive coming from English. Spanish DOES have an equivalent for "a" - "un/una", so the natural thing for an English speaker to say would be "él es UN médico", but I understand that to be awkward/unnatural.

    But then I realized, when you say the same sentence in plural - "they are doctors" - you don't have an article. You don't say "they are some doctors" (I had to Google, apparently "some" isn't an article anyway?)

    So Spanish ends up more consistent - Singular: "Él es médico." Plural: "Ellos son medicos."

    Unlike English - Singular: "He is a doctor." Plural: "They are doctors."

    1. asveikau · · focus · HN ↗
      The further back you go in Indo-European languages, they don't have articles. It's a relatively recent innovation.

      So for example latin didn't have them. Eventually they evolved from ille and unus.

      Much of Eastern Europe still does not have articles.

      1. Joker_vD · · focus · HN ↗
        The whole (over)insistence on using the determiners in general seems to be a relatively recent innovation as well, the articles being a large part of it. I am talking about constructions like "he shoved his hand into his pocket and pulled out his wallet" — why not just "he shoved hand into pocket and pulled out wallet"? The context is pretty self-evident, and if you really need to specify some deviation from it (he shoved his hand into someone else's pocket, but still pulled out his wallet), you always can do it by, you know, using the determiners; except now they actually will be non-redundant.
        1. podocarp · · focus · HN ↗
          Indeed that begins to sound like so called caveman talk. He shove hand in pocket and pull out wallet.
          1. Joker_vD · · focus · HN ↗
            And yet e.g. włożył rękę do kieszeni i wyjął portfel is a pretty natural-sounding Polish sentence. Grug trusts others not stupid.
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