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English: A vs. An

365 points · 529 comments · azhenley

  1. hbn · · focus · HN ↗
    A funny quirk of English I never noticed until I started learning Spanish:

    In Spanish, to say for example, "he is a doctor," you would say "él es médico." Which more literally translates to "he is doctor," which feels unintuitive coming from English. Spanish DOES have an equivalent for "a" - "un/una", so the natural thing for an English speaker to say would be "él es UN médico", but I understand that to be awkward/unnatural.

    But then I realized, when you say the same sentence in plural - "they are doctors" - you don't have an article. You don't say "they are some doctors" (I had to Google, apparently "some" isn't an article anyway?)

    So Spanish ends up more consistent - Singular: "Él es médico." Plural: "Ellos son medicos."

    Unlike English - Singular: "He is a doctor." Plural: "They are doctors."

    1. bradrn · · focus · HN ↗
      It’s simply that, in English, there is no indefinite plural article — or, equivalently, that the indefinite plural article is null. So ‘they are doctors’ is consistent with the behaviour of plural nouns elsewhere.

      Contrast this with, for example, French, where the indefinite singular un(e) correspond to the indefinite plural des: La boulangerie vend des baguettes ‘the bakery sells baguettes’ (whereas English cannot say *‘a baguettes’). But as in Spanish, professions take no article either way: Il est médecin / Ils sont médecins. So all three languages are self-consistent, just in their own ways.

      1. hbn · · focus · HN ↗
        English still feels hard to explain when things sound natural and when they don't.

        You can say "there are some vendors in the street" and it sounds normal. But if you were to say "they are some vendors" it sounds weird. It's pretty firmly more natural to say "they are vendors."

        1. jrmg · · focus · HN ↗
          And “they are some vendors” usually actually means “they are excellent vendors”!
          1. 1-more · · focus · HN ↗
            Really depends on how you say “some”
            1. rectang · · focus · HN ↗
              I will die on the hill that "SOME PIG" from Charlotte's Web was merely an existential determiner.
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