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Measure internet censorship

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  1. like_any_other · · focus · HN ↗
    The most pervasive censorship is who and what social media companies decide to block or suppress. Even in places like China. It's deliberately harder to measure, but any censorship measurement that omits it is like measuring war casualties, but ignoring those on the front lines.
    1. geraneum · · focus · HN ↗
      Not to minimize the impact of social media censorship, but one should really live in a country like Iran to grasp what pervasive censorship is. Most people born and raised in the relative freedoms provided in modern democratic systems have no clue what it feels like when you have such dictatorships. I say this because, looking at the current trends, we _could be_ heading in that direction, and the comparison is apt.
      1. howunfortunate · · focus · HN ↗
        I'm curious what trends you see towards censorship?

        Elon presumably being an exemplar for current trends: Twitter is unarguably far less censored than it was before (though censorship is still present). And Meta took note and also turned down its censorship significantly in response.

        The Epstein files, while far less than hoped for by many, are another example of a trend towards sharing far more sensitive info than has been typical by past administrations.

        There are many good examples you could point to of increased authoritarianism, but censorship in particular seems to be on the backswing, if anything.

        Edit: oof, it's extremely concerning that the comment below was flagged

        1. geraneum · · focus · HN ↗
          It’s too soon for such a conclusion IMO. The pervasive Iran-like censorship I was talking about will rear its ugly head when those authoritarian regimes are established. It’s a tool and I can assure you it will be used extensively. This is nothing new really.

          P.S. the Epstein files were just a cruel joke! I wouldn’t list it there.

          1. howunfortunate · · focus · HN ↗
            It doesn't add up for me. If the goal is simply authoritarian control, why would they employ less censorship than their predecessors?

            Surely they could get away with at the very least the same amount?

            1. trombuance · · focus · HN ↗

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