‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Measure internet censorship

221 points · 162 comments · Bluestein

  1. like_any_other · · focus · HN ↗
    The most pervasive censorship is who and what social media companies decide to block or suppress. Even in places like China. It's deliberately harder to measure, but any censorship measurement that omits it is like measuring war casualties, but ignoring those on the front lines.
    1. geraneum · · focus · HN ↗
      Not to minimize the impact of social media censorship, but one should really live in a country like Iran to grasp what pervasive censorship is. Most people born and raised in the relative freedoms provided in modern democratic systems have no clue what it feels like when you have such dictatorships. I say this because, looking at the current trends, we _could be_ heading in that direction, and the comparison is apt.
      1. like_any_other · · focus · HN ↗

        [dead]

        1. geraneum · · focus · HN ↗
          > You don't know what it feels like not because you're so free, but because you agree with the ruling regime on what it considers the most important questions.

          We don’t know what it feels like because we collectively participate and decide what should be considered and what not _periodically_ and it’s possible to change it, evidently, with various degrees and velocity by voting.

          > I would much prefer the dictatorship-style censorship, because our censorship is far, far more effective.

          Case in point!

          I’ve lived under both and can guarantee you don’t know what that dictatorship you so much yearn for has in their bag for you until it’s too late.

          1. aaa_aaa · · focus · HN ↗
            I guess he is not yearning for dictatorship, the style of censorship is the question. Preventing access to information is bad, but likely less harmful than deception.
            1. geraneum · · focus · HN ↗
              > Preventing access to information is bad, but likely less harmful than deception.

              It’s a mistake to separate these. They go hand in hand and mich further as you climb up the authoritarian ladder.

              What do you think is the style of censorship in authoritarian regimes like Iran? Do you think it’s just preventing access?

Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.