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Microsoft director: AI scraping 'the largest theft of labor in human history'

190 points · 52 comments · jonbaer

  1. adamddev1 · · focus · HN ↗
    I wrote something original in a language learning grammar online. I coined a term to describe something about how a certain language with negative language functions.

    I tried talking to an LLM about it and sure and enough, it had scraped it and learned to use that terminology and explanation that I made up. I asked the LLM, "Where did that concept/term come from, who made it up?" It did a bunch of searching and tried to site a whole bunch of other sources which did NOT contain the terms of the explanation I had written. It simply would not cite or mention my source. It kept parroting my material semi-correctly and hiding the source. By any other actor that would be an egregious act of sloppiness, dishonesty, and plagiarism.

    Generative AI is speed-running a widespread corruption of truth. I do not believe any of the gains are worth this.

    1. mistrial9 · · focus · HN ↗
      > I do not believe any of the gains are worth this.

      You are authoring original work.. the Baron in the Castle collected your work and uses it. Who becomes wealthy and how?

      1. MentalM · · focus · HN ↗
        That is pretty weak logic. I mean obviously it is the Baron who becomes wealthy. But what follows from this?

        By the same logic if Baron bought her baroness masterful dress to enjoy her look in that dress, and you when walked past the Castle saw the baroness in that dress, should you compensate to the Baron or not?

      2. adamddev1 · · focus · HN ↗
        It's more than that though. I authored the original work. Then the Baron in the Castle collected the work and uses it without fully understanding it. The Baron gives it out but in a partly-true, distorted form. He misunderstand how it applies and teaches people false clearly facts with it, with an air of authority. But when people try to find the source argument to see if the Baron is really on track, they have no idea. The Baron is just confidently parroting a compelling sounding set of words.

        For me the issue is more about the loss of truth than the loss of my IP.

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