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Btrfs/ZFS/bcachefs under workloads classic benchmarks skip

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  1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
    So two filesystems that are essentially shunned from the Linux kernel and permanent second-class citizens, and one that was removed from Red Hat and has a questionable history of reliability. Oh boy which do I choose?

    I'm saying ZFS on another OS.

    1. em-bee · · focus · HN ↗
      no thanks to red hat. i switched to debian for servers. fedora fortunately still supports btrfs.

      zfs is shunned. can't really get around that copyright issue. bcachefs just hit a setback, which i am hopeful will eventually be resolved.

      1. p_l · · focus · HN ↗
        The copyright issue is not really that big, except from some devs who decided to sure Ubuntu :V

        But there's a LOT of FUD about it.

        1. em-bee · · focus · HN ↗
          it is big enough that it prevents distributions to include zfs. and that in reality is the problem. i would not care much if all distributions decided to ignore the copyright issue like canonical does and i could therefore get reliable support for zfs. but alone the thought of having to boot a rescue system to fix my broken computer and then not having zfs support because no one built a rescue system with it included is making the risk to high.
          1. p_l · · focus · HN ↗
            Distributions aren't locked from distributing ZFS, the only group that actually is suing is few kernel developers w/ their lawyers who have non-standard understanding of copyright (including one that isn't norm for the linux kernel, including for filesystems).
            1. em-bee · · focus · HN ↗
              who is at fault doesn't really matter. the end result is that distributions aren't including it, and that kills it. unlike almost anything else which i can add to a system after booting it, filesystems need to be available from the start. until debian, fedora, suse, etc are convinced that there is no threat this just won't happen.
              1. p_l · · focus · HN ↗
                That's fair, yes.

                I guess my specific "bubble" simply didn't have that issue for a long time

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