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People who know the most often sound the least certain

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  1. ranger_danger · · focus · HN ↗
    "As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding." -Sloman and Fernbach

    Also, the Dunning-Kruger effect still applies to smart people. You don't stop when you are estimating your ability correctly; as you learn more, you gain more awareness of your ignorance and continue being conservative with your self-estimates.

    1. acheron · · focus · HN ↗
      Reminder that the “Dunning-Kruger effect” is not real. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49160437">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49160437
      1. readthenotes1 · · focus · HN ↗
        That reminds me of the old saying &quot; who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?&quot;
      2. atoav · · focus · HN ↗
        [delayed]
      3. ranger_danger · · focus · HN ↗
        Please re-read the first sentence of my previous comment.
    2. sublinear · · focus · HN ↗
      Generally speaking, you can&#x27;t really tell what someone knows based on their words or actions.

      Performative behavior is not a modern phenomenon. Deceitfulness is so effective we&#x27;re not going to end it by discussing Dunning-Kruger every chance we get. Mere knowledge is not enough to defeat it, and you&#x27;ll always be sorry when you underestimate your opponents.

      It&#x27;s all ultimately a matter of trust, and that takes time most people don&#x27;t have or don&#x27;t want to give. It&#x27;s more important to stack incentives to compel behavior and hedge your bets against people who seem off.

  2. LoganDark · · focus · HN ↗
    &gt; All of these travel further than: &quot;There are several plausible mechanisms here, and the result depends on which bottleneck dominates.&quot;

    I&#x27;d assume the reason that quote doesn&#x27;t travel is because people are tired of quotes written by AI. I&#x27;d use a real example here.

  3. gjtz · · focus · HN ↗
    Dude is using AI for a slop-post that complains that AI pundits are not persuasive enough and should take acting classes.

    Really, the one thing missing in 2026 is more and better AI propaganda!

  4. Grimeton · · focus · HN ↗
    &gt;The people who know the most often sound the least certain

    As was beautifully demonstrated in this article.

  5. fasterik · · focus · HN ↗
    It&#x27;s revealing that the author thinks that a podcast is the ideal venue to reason through complex technical issues. As opposed to, say, preprints on arXiv.

    The &quot;like&quot; thing is less of a verbal fluency issue and more of a cultural one. You can listen to someone smart like Donald Knuth speak and he will definitely stammer and stutter a lot. The &quot;like&quot; thing is more of a West coast or California thing.

  6. throwrioawfo · · focus · HN ↗
    Not sure I agree with this. It&#x27;s often true in SF, but that is largely an affectation, people imitating people like Peter Thiel etc. But not as true elsewhere
    1. majormajor · · focus · HN ↗
      In medicine you want the doctor who&#x27;s willing to admit &quot;we don&#x27;t understand the exact mechanism here&quot; + also who wants more details from you before making a decision, vs confidently brushing you off and writing a prescription as fast as possible.

      Lawyers will usually give much less-certain answers to questions like &quot;is it legal to do X&quot; than lay people as well because they&#x27;re aware of much more nuance in the law. (Not referring to the wishy-washy corporate-law answers given to avoid liability here, but in outside convo about issues.)

    2. sublinear · · focus · HN ↗
      Yes, there is a whole world out there outside of SF. As much as we&#x27;d like it to be true, arrogance itself cannot be contained by a mere city!
  7. altairprime · · focus · HN ↗

    [dead]

  8. samstokes · · focus · HN ↗

      The best lack all conviction, while the worst
      Are full of passionate intensity.
    
    - W.B. Yeats
    1. boris · · focus · HN ↗
      &quot;The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.&quot;

      Bertrand Russell

    2. r_lee · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; while the worst &gt; Are full of passionate intensity.

      sounds like the ideal entrepreneur to give funding to

  9. InfiniteAscent · · focus · HN ↗
    Just a little more effort and STEM people will discover the social sciences. Cute.
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