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Agreement between the USA and Denmark (1951,2004) [pdf]

37 points · 61 comments · closingreunion

  1. 21921276 · · focus · HN ↗
    I get that this is posted to show that the "Art of the deal" has produced little novelties in the recent US-Denmark agreement:

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    It does have the novelty that even under independence the US will continue to operate the bases. I&#x27;m not sure if Denmark thinks this is a poison pill for any independence movement.

    The Golden Dome bases in Greenland are such a stupid pretext:

    1) Russia has the Sarmat missile that flies over the South Pole and completely evades all northern installations.

    2) Russia has the Poseidon nuclear torpedo that threatens the vast coastal areas of the US and is immune all that as well.

    1. everyone · · focus · HN ↗
      Also Trump seems to be allied with Russia. They got him elected and paid for his son&#x27;s wedding and so on. He withdrew all support for Ukraine, and has put tariffs on practically every country except Russia. He has consistently pressured Ukraine to surrender and repeated Russian propoganda verbatim. He saved Putin a loss of face by pressuring Ukraine not to strike the last victory day parade. Even before he was president he handed Russia one of their biggest military victories by having maga follower Mike Pence block military aid to Ukraine for 6 months just after their offensive had culminated.
      1. gedy · · focus · HN ↗
        I don&#x27;t disagree with your details, but I am really not sure why the alternatives (Obama, Clinton, Biden) were somehow seen as tougher on Russia? All the invasions from Crimea in 2014, and 2023 were not under Trump administrations and the response from the US then was not effective at all.
        1. toyg · · focus · HN ↗
          It&#x27;s debatable: funding and supporting a proxy since 2023 was a pretty effective way to keep Russia into a quagmire for years, seriously affecting their military, draining their finances, and isolating their economy - to the point that any non-military activity outside of the country has basically disappeared. Short of direct engagement, which is unfeasible due to MAD, it basically was the strongest response.

          (2014 is different, in the sense that it was always going to happen if Ukraine ever managed to escape Russian orbit, and more or less everyone knew.)

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