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A graphical desktop for the ZX Spectrum

131 points · 130 comments · graemep

  1. pmg101 · · focus · HN ↗
    I had fun playing around in Claude getting it to write 6502 assembler for the BBC Micro. It is fun to imagine what we could have built on those old machines with these new coding agents! But it is kind of hollow isn't it.
    1. reaperducer · · focus · HN ↗
      It is fun to imagine what we could have built on those old machines with these new coding agents! But it is kind of hollow isn't it.

      It's the difference between building a table yourself and telling someone else to build a table for you.

      If you've never done anything for yourself, usually with your own hands, you don't understand the pleasure and satisfaction that comes from doing it.

      And since "AI" isn't human, it can't know that feeling, either.

      1. Someone · · focus · HN ↗
        Designing a table and letting somebody else build it can be enjoyable, too.

        There are plenty of people enjoying designing, for example people who 3D print objects they design, or people designing PCBs or even entire gadgets but outsourcing production.

        With LLMs, I guess a factor is how much direction you give the machine. “Build me a graphical desktop” likely isn’t very enjoyable, but I can see co-working with a LLM being enjoyable. Examples

        - think of some novel UI interaction, and let the LLM code it

        - spending hours to speed up the GUI or to make it use less memory

        1. alt227 · · focus · HN ↗
          This.

          Knowing your limitations of building, but being good at designing and watching somebody/something else realise your vision is incredibly satisfying.

          I see it like 3D printing. Nobody can extrude molten plastic out of their bodies to make things, but the skill of designing the construction well and then watch the machine execute it is certainly a good feeling. I dont really see how this is different to designing some software verbally and prompting an ai to build it for you.

          1. varjag · · focus · HN ↗
            If you don't know how the artefact you ordered works you haven't built it in any meaningful sense of the word.
        2. flohofwoe · · focus · HN ↗
          INHO the only unsatisfactory part for this "explorative" work is that you never really get into the flow since the LLM just takes too long between interactions (sometimes minutes). That's long enough to prevent from getting into the flow, but not long enough to focus on something else in the meantime.
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