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1. trollbridge · 1789785417 · focus · HN ↗

   This approach to marketing one's AI by finding ways to brag that it "broke out" and "hacked companies" is getting ridiculous. It's particularly sad when it's large, established businesses like Google resorting to the kind of thing that's embarrassing enough when it's some brand new startup on tpot trying to get some engagement.

   1. verdverm · 1789785556 · focus · HN ↗

      Google is flailing right now, probably more a PR effort to say they are still relevant

      1. wavewrangler · 1789787566 · focus · HN ↗

         I must be out of the loop. Not defending google when I ask this but....how is google flailing, exactly? I figured they were in the best position of all the other companies combined. They have their own hardware for inference, they have a solid grasp on enterprise, and they have a good road map. I mean, Google is incredibly strong, is it not? And remember how quickly google answered Bard? For a while, gemini was even the preferred model, if we are strictly speaking AI models. Again, I'm not defending google, I just want to see how this comment makes sense is all, without letting fantasy overtake reality in the process...

         1. verdverm · 1789788843 · focus · HN ↗

            They are doing fine as a shovel salesman (GPUs/TPUs, being the inference hardware provider, though I now wonder if their token processing stats are their own or combined with those who are running on their hardware too, I've been conditioned to be far more skeptical of Big Ai these days)

            On the flip side, gemini is terrible at coding by comparison, so much so google has now given all engineers access to claude. They promised us Gemini 3.5 pro at their developer event this summer, now it seems it will never be released. Antigravity usage is on par with grok (~1%). They've removed the feedback button for "ai answers" at the top of search, that does not seem well received, it hallucinates too much (and may be a legal liability, some courts have ruled as such in the EU). Talk to googlers IRL, things are not so happy internally. You can see the forced gemini usage for coding and subsequent slop in their products, especially gcloud console. I was sent the greatest slop deck by one of their sales people for Gemini Enterprise, needless to say we did not buy from them, but we did get an amazing :cursed-claude: emoji from the deck (nano banana's take on what claude looks like as a person)

            a rambled sample, hope this helps, I was a google superfan for a long time, I was sad to see things go south, now I'm happy that I was motivated to move off most their platforms (gmail/youtube remain)

            1. trollbridge · 1790080479 · focus · HN ↗

               Yeah I don’t see myself paying a $200 a month tax to Google for inference anymore like OAI or A\ would get out of me.

               I’m happy with a Google AI Pro sub for free that came with a Pixel 10 Pro. I occasionally use it.

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