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1. amelius · 1789774081 · focus · HN ↗

   At some point people will use an LLM to design an Apple M series competitor.

   1. Lramseyer · 1789776657 · focus · HN ↗

      Production grade CPU design is more than just the RTL (the source code.) To achieve the performance numbers that these companies get, you have to do a ton of optimization in your physical design to achieve the power/performance/area (PPA) metrics that make these products competitive. LLMs are not suitable for that kind of work.

      There are people working on PPA optimization and trying to shake up how things are done, just not with LLMs.

      1. menaerus · 1789798733 · focus · HN ↗

         > LLMs are not suitable for that kind of work.

         I wonder why not or you meant not suitable yet?

         1. Systemerror7A69 · 1789802810 · focus · HN ↗

            This is just speculation on my part, but LLMs work best when they get immediate, verifiable feedback on their task, and the kind of physical optimizations they mean might not give that to LLMs.

            1. TeMPOraL · 1789826106 · focus · HN ↗

               The right way is to throw LLMs at building tools that reframe the problem into a shape LLMs are good at navigating, and then have LLMs use those tools to solve it.

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