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US troop deaths during Iran war exceed Pentagon count by at least four

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shadowtree · 1789773761 · focus · HN ↗
Zero service members died in our just announced de facto annexation of Greenland.
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/18/us/politics/trump-greenland.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/18/us/politics/trump-greenla...
1. ceejayoz · 1789774766 · focus · HN ↗
  They probably just re-extended the existing treaty so he could call it a win.
  <a href="https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-806-Denmark-Defense.done_.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/04-806-Denm...
  1. shadowtree · 1789775188 · focus · HN ↗
    "Among the agreed provisions is one stating the deal would not expire even if Greenland became an independent country in the future.
    The official added that under the deal, the US has unilateral power to build additional military structures with no approval needed from Greenland or Denmark. It includes "permanent access, basing and overflights rights," the official said.
    It also bans non-Nato countries from building bases in Greenland, and "bans adversaries from making investments in Greenland that could threaten the United States".
    The official added that under the current status quo, adversaries have been allowed to invest in Greenland's "sensitive sectors without investment screening".
    The official specifically referenced Russia and China, saying it blocks them from deploying troops or making investments in "sensitive sectors".
    Without the official text being released, it is unclear how exactly the deal differs from a 1951 agreement with Denmark, under which the US can send as many troops as it wants to Greenland."
    <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c63d7lexyym1o
    ceejayoz · 1789775489 · focus · HN ↗
    They already had these sorts of things (and Denmark, as a NATO member, was already pretty unlikely to permit Russian basing there).
    <a href="https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/den001.asp" rel="nofollow">https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/den001.asp
    "United States aircraft may fly over and land in any territory in Greenland"
    "the Government of the United States of America, without compensation to the Government of the Kingdom of Denmark, shall be entitled within such defense area and the air spaces and waters adjacent thereto... (ii) to construct, install, maintain, and operate facilities and equipment"
    etc.
    ericmay · 1789776667 · focus · HN ↗
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    ceejayoz · 1789777404 · focus · HN ↗
    > Sure but maybe we have them in a much more important and secure way.
    Sure, and maybe the reflecting pool is clean and sparkly.
    ericmay · 1789777992 · focus · HN ↗
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    ceejayoz · 1789778397 · focus · HN ↗
    Ah, a truly classic ad hominem.
    I do not have to take the Trump administration at its word. I'm not a moron.
    ericmay · 1789778595 · focus · HN ↗
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    ceejayoz · 1789778831 · focus · HN ↗
    > Snarky comments deserve snarky replies so there you have it.
    "Maybe the Trump administration isn't lying" deserves a snarky comment.
    > you’ll just have to read the agreement
    Until it's available, I'm very comfortable not taking the claims of the "vandals cut a 300+ foot long hole in the reflecting pool" people at face value.
    ericmay · 1789779215 · focus · HN ↗
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    solid_fuel · 1789779076 · focus · HN ↗
    > Snarky comments deserve snarky replies so there you have it.
    You started the snark. Shallow dismissals do not merit detailed replies.
    > You won’t have to take the Trump administrations word you’ll just have to read the agreement and accept the facts of it even if it doesn’t fit your preconceived political narrative.
    Here's an idea: Why don't you read the agreement and if it is actually a significant change then you can come back with some facts instead of just blindly trusting the administration just because it makes you feel good.
    Until some actual evidence is presented, none of us are required to accept the word of people who have demonstrated repeatedly that they are allergic to the truth.
    ericmay · 1789779320 · focus · HN ↗
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2. krferriter · 1789775811 · focus · HN ↗
  Reading that it sounds like nothing is changing in terms of US military access to Greenland, and they’re essentially just reaffirming the existing agreement which provided broad and permanent US and NATO access to Greenland.
  I think interacting with Trump is like interacting with a dementia patient who also is a malignant narcissistic and pathological liar, so I imagine Danish and US staffers had to find a way to frame the agreement to him that made it sound like he had gained something major, in order to get him to shut up about the issue and stop obsessing over his conquest ideas.

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