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1. bix6 · 1789772020 · focus · HN ↗

   And all the republicans will still vote red for the lying, cheating, grifting man.

   All my life I have had faith in the governments reports and statistics for the most part. This admin has torn everything down and for what?

   1. silisili · 1789772469 · focus · HN ↗

      People tend to vote with their wallets in mind more than anything. I think that's why it ping ponged(inflation), and why they're getting destroyed in the midterm polling. The next president will likely have a D next to their name(more inflation).

      1. [deleted] · 1789772585 · focus · HN ↗

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      2. dylan604 · 1789772911 · focus · HN ↗

         Both times Trump won, the polls predicted he would lose.

         1. ceejayoz · 1789772977 · focus · HN ↗

            Not by anything like the 8-9 points we're seeing in midterm polling right now.
         2. PenguinCoder · 1789773227 · focus · HN ↗

            Legally can't run a third time or be voted for again. But then again, legality hasn't stopped the things he does. Others need to step up.

            1. mitxela · 1789777084 · focus · HN ↗

               They reinterpreted the constitution to say no president can be presidentmore than twice consecutively, even though it doesn't say that. Like how in Russia, the constitution obviously meant to say Putin will always be the president.
      3. jimt1234 · 1789773693 · focus · HN ↗

         I heard a good quote once: People don't vote to say thank you. People vote to say fuck you.

         1. PorciiVorbesc · 1789777126 · focus · HN ↗

            >People don't vote to say thank you.

            How true is that? Plenty of older people I know vote consistently for one party because it did something good for them a long time ago.

      4. HumblyTossed · 1789773890 · focus · HN ↗

         I don't trust polling.
      5. zmgsabst · 1789774049 · focus · HN ↗

         Trump himself only happened because Ds abandoned the working class for grievance politics circa 2010 — forming “public private partnerships” to tear open old wounds while screwing the working class on behalf of corporations.

         1. mitxela · 1789777110 · focus · HN ↗

            Ds are doing neither. They're just pretending if they don't change anything, everything will be alright.
         2. clipsy · 1789778833 · focus · HN ↗

            You're a couple decades late there, it was Clinton and the Third Way(tm) Democrats that abandoned blue collar workers.

            (Of course, that doesn't capture the full story either -- before '92, white blue collar workers were already abandoning the Democrats to support Reagan while he and the Republicans gutted private sector unions.)

         3. yread · 1789822863 · focus · HN ↗

            > forming “public private partnerships” to tear open old wounds while screwing the working class on behalf of corporations.

            Sorry what does that mean? Are all PPPs woke or something? Did US elites ever stand with workers against corporations?

            1. zmgsabst · 1789835426 · focus · HN ↗

               Obama worked with Wall St to promote Woke/ESG/etc in public-private partnerships to dismantle the class solidarity forming in 2010 around anger over Wall St bailouts.

               OWS itself fell apart when activists started with race and sex based grievances rather than class solidarity.

               Trump is a result of that choice to institutionalize bigotry rather than address class issues — as Trump’s margin in 2016 seems to come down to working class voters uninterested in grievance politics. (And the large Obama -> Trump voter swing, eg, among Millennial men.)

               > Ds abandoned the working class for grievance politics circa 2010

               Which I already explained in the first part of my statement you selectively edited out.

      6. dfxm12 · 1789775920 · focus · HN ↗

         Trump was president before. People didn't vote for him a second time if they wanted to improve the economy.

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