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Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without releasing to the AOSP

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  1. wps · · focus · HN ↗
    The amount of roadblocks Google is putting up for GrapheneOS is just ridiculous. None of their decisions make any sense, from the delayed source patches upstream, to the embargos, attestation issues, etc. Google simply regrets android being open source.
    1. godelski · · focus · HN ↗
      I hope people remember this when advocating for chromium. Just because it is open source doesn't mean they don't control it. We need to start the long process of hard forking now or turn to alternatives like Firefox as a new foundation.

        > Google simply regrets android being open source.
      
      Android wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't open source. With all the work from outside Google. The same is true chrome.

      But they won't learn that on their own. They are breaking the deals. So we move. We force their hand

      1. m-p-3 · · focus · HN ↗
        > or turn to alternatives like Firefox

        I never left. The only thing I don't like is that I can't directly donate to fund Firefox, only towards the Mozilla Foundation in general.

        1. AstralSerenity · · focus · HN ↗
          I'm personally fine with that. Mozilla Corporation (Firefox) remains the largest part of Mozilla.

          As the cash cow, it will always receive what it needs, but it will also act as the vehicle for funding possible avenues of diversity.

          Mozilla is never going to be independent off of Firefox alone -- that revenue simply doesn't exist.

          I wish Mozilla had taken Proton's approach, but regardless, I hope they manage to throw something that sticks.

          A fully financially secure Mozilla would truly allow their organization to shine.

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